February 19, 2012
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World War 3
I wrote this to shed a little light on what is most likely to become World War 3. It’s pretty crazy stuff and it boggles my mind that there are not articles all over the place talking about it.
To discuss #Iran and our current feud with them, you have to know a little history. There is a lot of hype surrounding the situation and it’s easy to be convinced we need to immediately invade Iran because they are supposedly developing weapons of mass destruction. (sound familiar?)
Our feud goes back to 1951 when Iran decided to nationalize their oil industry which had been previously controlled by the British Angolo-Iranian Oil company. This decision did not sit well with Britain or the United States, so in 1953 the United States overthrew the DEMOCRATICALLY elected government in Iran and replaced him with a dictator who completely relied on the United States to hold his power. Both Britain and the U.S. chose #Fazlollah Zahedi to be the prime minister and to take charge of a now military-controlled government.
“The Central Intelligence Agency had successfully pressured the weak monarch to participate in the coup, while bribing street thugs, clergy, politicians and Iranian army officers to take part in a propaganda campaign against Mosaddegh and his government.”
“CIA-paid men were brought into Tehran in buses and trucks, and took over the streets of the city. 800 people were killed during and as a direct result of the conflict.[2] Mosaddegh was arrested, tried and convicted of treason by the Shah’s military court.”
Now, why would the US participate in overthrowing a democratic government and replacing it with a dictatorship? That’s a good question.
Turns out, the United States was receiving a TON of money in kickbacks from the sale of Iranian oil.
To protect Iran from being overthrown or aligned with the Soviets, the United States supplied weapons and CIA training to the leaders in the military police, something that later backfired. (which makes me think, how many terrorists have been trained by the CIA? isn’t this trend getting old?)
Needless to say, when it was all said and done, the Iranian people were pissed and in 1979 they staged a revolution to take their country back.
What does all of this have to do with Irans “threat to the U.S.?”
That brings us to the controversy surrounding Iran’s Nuclear program. (aka, the reason the U.S. absolutely has to invade and kill hundreds of thousands of Iranians and lose thousands of it’s own citizens to “preserve peace” in the world because Iran is going to blow us all up -think “Iraq”)
Lets get something straight right now, Iran ALREADY has a nuclear program for domestic use. In the 1950′s, with the help of the UNITED STATES they began working on their power infrastructure to produce cheap and clean energy. 56 years later, with co-operation from the IAEA (the International Atomic Energy Agency) and help from a Russian agency (Rosatom) Iran opened up it’s first nuclear power plant on September 12, 2011.
Our problem in the U.S. isn’t that Iran has Nuclear power plants, but that they want to produce and enrich their own fuel sources for these plants.
Immediately after the 1979 revolution Iran’s sources of fuel for their forthcoming power facilities were cut off. France had been a major supplier and refused to sell. The U.S. stopped fulfilling their contracts with the government of Iran. On top of that, under pressure from the U.S, Germany along with other countries stopped co-operating with Iran. If Iran wanted Nuclear power in their country they had to do it from start to finish, on their own. It goes on and on.
So the United States, increasingly frustrated with Iran no longer being under their thumb, started a new propaganda campaign against Iran. They said that Iran was attempting to produce weapons grade uranium for the purpose of attacking Israel and other countries. The U.S. demanded they shut down their enrichment facilities and allow other governments to provide the fuel sources for their nuclear power facilities. Obviously Iran refused. They cited the unreliability of foreign sources of enriched uranium (see previous paragraph) and stated that they would continue doing it themselves.
To counter the U.S. claims that Iran was producing weapons grade nuclear material Iran offered to put huge restrictions on its enrichment program. They made the Additional Protocol to allow more stringent inspections by the IAEA law, they allowed foreign representatives to oversee their work, they renounced plutonium reprocessing into weapons grade material and they started immediatly fabricating enriched uranium into reactor fuel rods. On top of that they accepted the suggestion of the IAEA to allow private and public participation in the production process to eliminate their ability to produce weapons grade materials.
It is literally insane to believe that Iran is developing, or has the ability to produce nuclear weapons now or in the future with these restrictions and limitations.
The lines of war are being drawn as we speak.
Both Russia and China have condemmed the United States for it’s war-mongering policy in Iran. They have openly stated that they will not only support Iran, but DEFEND THEM should the United States decide to invade. France and Britian have aligned with the United States and we can count on the entire middle-east being against us.
It would be a terrible mistake for us to get any more involved in this.
The more research I do, the more frustrated I get over this whole war-mongering propaganda our government is getting us into. With a ton of actual facts and a basic idea of the history of what has been going on over the last 60 years I believe anyone can see that the desire the U.S. has to invade yet another country is founded on nothing more than our seriously corrupt desire to rule the planet.
Iran is not a threat to us. It never was. Our meddling in their government and our destruction of their sovereignty has caused a HUGE amount of anti-American sentiment that is manifesting itself into “terrorist” organizations that are fighting us all over the world. We are being fed a bunch of crap from our government through News organizations that don’t give a crap about fact-checking and Media outlets that are being subsidized (paid) by the the U.S. government.
If you want to stop terrorism, you have to understand where it comes from. It comes from people who are enraged by our policy of intervening in the affairs of other countries. It comes from people who have had their entire families murdered by the U.S. government and the dictators around the world they have put in power. Where it does not come from is groups of people who don’t like the way we dress.
“but the Arabs hate western culture!”
-That is why they don’t move here.
Comments (33)
why would the US participate in overthrowing a democratic government and replacing it with a dictatorship? Because they’ve done that to protect their economic interests all over the World, it’s just usual protocol for US. They took down our democratic elected president Jacobo Arbenz back in 1954 and throw us to a 36 years civil war that killed millions of people, did the same in Chile when US killed Salvador Allende to put the bloody sinister Augusto Pinochet in front of the goverment causing the killing of millions of people too mostly students. They’d have done the same at Nicarague but they kicked US butt same as Cuba did, I trully hope US invades Iran or North Corea to see how China and Russia along with United Latin America (without Colombia and Mexico of course) react to that now that US is not longer the most powerful nation ^-^ Lets hope republicans are stupid enough
You’ve done your homework. Very few realize our country’s role in this. Thank you….pity this has only had 10 views….
@beesuze - did a ton of homework for this one after constantly being shut down by questions I didn’t have the answers to.
@xXxlovelylollipop - What’s up with this country that they think they can force the whole world to be the way they want them to be? Smug American bastards need a good ass kicking.
@runisom48 - I love my US friends you know I do but US forign policy have done such a great harm to me and my country, I wish I could say something nice about it but I guess I’m not that good person. *hug* sorry for the rant.
@xXxlovelylollipop - there’s a lot of us here working to change things and a guy by the name of Ron Paul who is starting the whole country on a whole new way of thinking.
This is a breath of fresh air to me. I try to stay up on these things and keep an eye on the trends. I love that you put this all together in such a concise manner. As my poltical awareness increased later in my life, I eventually was able to see this country for what it is and I was shocked. Although I’m 61 yrs old, I’ve been on the internet only a couple of years because I didn’t have any interest in getting a computer, but I must say that since I went online, I’ve spent considerable time looking at sites that have to do with the progression of events in the world leading up to these days. The level of dumbing down and brainwashing the people in this country is unreal. And this country exports its materialistic, greed based culture all over the planet. As soon as I saw the current situation developing around Iran, my first thought was,”This could be WWIII.” The alignment of nations is perfect for it. Russia and China have had it with the US and its petrodollar based world domination. And now the US is making nice with the smaller Pacific Rim countries, sending business propositions their way in order to attempt to control China. 2012 could turn out to be a very interesting year indeed. I have a cassette from 2001 by Michael Parenti entitled “Globalization and Imperialism” that first made me aware of the US taking over other countries governments.
@xXxlovelylollipop - Not to worry dear, there really isn’t anything nice to say about US policy. Even when they’re nice to people, it’s so they can control them, you know sometimes it’s better to use candy than guns, as long as you control them in the end.
Excellent post. I am glad you sent a friends request that I was able to read this post. You have given the exact points that I would have. You are so right, why is the US so interested in attacking Iran when they were the ones who brought in the coup when there was democratic government in the first place.
Oh yes, think Iraq!! See what they have done there… left so many civillian deaths.
@xXxlovelylollipop - The US has bailed the world out of two world wars and saved it from communism. The American people have sacrificed their standard of living to keep the world at peace for 60 years. We rebuilt Europe and the Far East and educated the best minds in China since they got rid of Mao and his gang of maniacs.
That the people of Latin America choose to live in piss ant banana republics by constantly electing Marxists who rob them blind, is no fault of the US. Marxist always blame their failures on someone else. It means never having to say you’re sorry.
RON PAUL??? are you guys serious? I would be moving out if that dictator moved into the white house. You have little evidence I would like to know where you got your information on this subject so I could read for myself. That is the thing about articles you have to prove your work. What kind of citations do you have? OTHERWISE we can only regard your words with speculation and hearsay.
@sometimestheycomebackanyway - So how would you respond to the fact that the US has supplied arms to the world and been actively involved in a majority of global conflict?
@justfinethanku - Give some examples. You are making the usual America-hating blanket statements which are impossible to address.
@Ikwa - Your kidding right? Calling Ron Paul a dictator? We are talking about the same person right? The guy who wants to bring our troops home, stop our foreign intervention, initiate a policy of trade and peace, reduce the size of government, eliminate the income tax and reduce the power of the presidential office?
You can go ahead and read the links in the article. There is no “speculation” I don’t write anything without knowing what I am talking about.
here’s a link for ya: what is a dictator
@sometimestheycomebackanyway - the examples are in the post and the multitude of articles linked in it. did you read it?
@justfinethanku - Your post is about Iran. Your comment accused the US of habitual gun running and being involved in “a majority of world conflicts.”
@sometimestheycomebackanyway - here’s another quick article
@justfinethanku - The Obama Regime running guns to Mexican drug cartels. Big surprise!
The Republican House is grilling Obama’s Attorney General Eric Holder and is ready to hold him in contempt.
The renegade and lawless Obama Regime is a disgrace to all freedom-loving people.
@sometimestheycomebackanyway - couldn’t agree more. But it doesn’t stop there. Our policies of interventionism are decades old. Who do you think trained Bin Laden? Who supplied Iraq’s weapons? Who fed money and weapons into Egypt to keep their dictator going for so many years?
I’m trying to link to as many articles as I can, from a HUGE assortment of sources but most of this stuff is common knowledge anyway, we just tend to forget about it when we want to garner support for yet another war.
@justfinethanku - The US, like every country must look out for its best interests. I have no problem with the United States kicking ass and taking names all over the globe.
Yours is the Ron Paul-FDR doctrine on foreign policy.
That policy cost 64,000,000 lives between 1932 and 1945. It’s a proven failure in other words.
@sometimestheycomebackanyway - non-interventionalism does not destroy lives, it protects them. And your comparison to FDR is stunning, there is literally no school of thought that supports it whatsoever.
@justfinethanku - It’s called isolationism. And it is a definite school of thought that brought the world to its knees.
Subsequent schools that rejected isolationism include real politique and Reaganism.
@sometimestheycomebackanyway - Again with the comparisons, Non-nonintervention is NOT isolationism. In fact, our country was founded on it!
Where do you get this stuff??????
@justfinethanku - What is the difference between non-interventionism and isolationism?
Of course America was founded on non-intervention. Britain, France and Spain were superpowers and any intervention meant getting entangled with them.
But the United States became a super power during the 20th century. And that’s a game changer.
@sometimestheycomebackanyway - because it’s already been said, I’ll just cut and paste.
“Non-interventionism, the diplomatic policy whereby a nation seeks to avoid alliances with other nations in order to avoid being drawn into wars not related to direct territorial self-defense, has had a long history in the United States. It is a form of “realism”.
Non-interventionism on the part of the United States over the course of its foreign policy, is more of a want to aggressively protect the United States’ interests than a want to shun the rest of the world.
Non-intervention, sometimes referred to as military non-interventionism, seems to some to be the antithesis of isolationism. Maintaining the participation of the United States in global economic affairs is thought to likely boost trade and expand US diplomacy, in the view of Edward A. Olsen.
Thomas Paine is generally credited with instilling the first non-interventionist ideas into the American body politic; his work Common Sensecontains many arguments in favor of avoiding alliances. These ideas introduced by Paine took such a firm foothold that the Second Continental Congress struggled against forming an alliance with France and only agreed to do so when it was apparent that the American Revolutionary War could be won in no other manner.
George Washington‘s farewell address is often cited as laying the foundation for a tradition of American non-interventionism:
The great rule of conduct for us, in regard to foreign nations, is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible. Europehas a set of primary interests, which to us have none, or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves, by artificial ties, in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities.”
lets let the blame lay where it should. If Ahmadinejad wasn’t threatening a 2nd Holaucost against Israeli citizens every ten minutes and meddling in other countries affairs like Lebenon, Israel, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Syria all the time we wouldn’t even care if Iran had Nukes. Even in the last week Iran sent 1500 troops to Syria to support a dictator that the Iranians love. During WW2 in the Nazi regime as much as 11% of the elite SS were in fact Iranians. So Iran has a history of this kind of racism. So all countries do it,all meddle, not just America.
But America recieves a lot of criticism [and should] for being the biggest kid on the block with the biggest stick. This arm of justice America has wielded just like a school yard fight, divides people, into seperate groups representing varying philisophical degrees of justice. How big a stick America should weld is something we should all discuss and debate, especially with all the economic & social upheavals everywhere.
In fact Iran’s Nuclear program was originally started and encouraged by US foreign policy in 50′s. I find your article interesting but many one-sided antiwestern statements without considering the entire picture as balanced foreign policy. I guess this is why we are a Republic and not a pure Democracy. Interesting indeed though and I commend you for all your research even though I do not agree with many of your conclusions. It is true America does meddle too much but someone has to carry and enforce justice in this world. America has been placed in that position not by choice but neccessary pragmitism that resulted after being attacked at Pearl harbor. There is no simple answer.
@justfinethanku - NATO was very effective in holding off the Soviets. Asian-Australian alliances were very effective in stopping the spread of communism and protecting trade.
We got Bin Ladin and crippled Al Qaida because of our military and intelligence dealings with other countries.
I think non-interventionism have been obsolete for a very long time.
human corruption http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIsXIueGj28
i agree with and have been aware of most of what you have said here. as the first comment pointed out the U.S. supported Augusto Pinochet. John McCain flew to Chile to have lunch with the dictator for heaven’s sake. Pinochet is considered by many to have been the 2nd most brutal dictator of the 20th century behind Hitler. Saddam Hussein was a U.S. puppet. the U.S. supposedly even paid for his university education. the U.S. supplied Bin Laden’s Taliban with weapons and financial support during the 1980s, some covertly. the U.S. propped the last Shah of Iran into power. there are however many Americans including politicians who don’t believe a war with Iran is a viable solution to tensions. there is another factor in the uptick of rhetoric, Israel’s hawk Netanyahu and his threatening saber rattling. while wanting to support Israel as an ally the administration is urging him to allow for a diplomatic solution. the desire in Israel to go to war with Iran is not held by many Israeli citizens. during the beginning of his administration President Obama offered Iran the possibility of a better relationship. of course the opposition categorized Obama’s efforts as “appeasement”. idiots. remember during his campaign McCain put the words “bomb bomb bomb Iran” to a Beach Boy’s song? how stupid was that. not all Iranian citizens are happy with their rulers either. you certainly recall the freedom uprising that was eventually silenced although i believe temporarily. the man i call my mentor long ago said peace in the world requires “relentless dialogue” between nations to build bonds of trust. about trust he has also said it can take years to build bonds of trust with someone but only 10 minutes to destroy those bonds. hopefully if common sense does not prevent a war the bottom line will. we simply cannot afford another war.
It’s crazy, America might be responsible for killing those nuclear scientists in Iran recently.
This is certainly a worrying situation. China may just be the kingpin in deciding the direction of developments here. I know both NZ and Australia are heavily committed with trade to both China and Russia, plus I suspect that pissing off China could negate any future US economy bailout. I sense a big meltdown coming.
VERY VERY well written! This is the stuff xanga should be filled with. VALUABLE INFORMATION!!!
@Colorsofthenight - lmao